There has been a huge cultural shift within the organisation. The smart thing to do would be to sit on it and monitor how it is affecting morale and zeal. It makes more sense to keep gradually phasing 1914 and other obviously failed prophecies by not mentioning them anymore. The loosening of the grooming standards is just a relatively minor thing when you compare it to the stringent belief patterns of JWs. I too believe they will sit on this and closely monitor the results as they become a slightly more modern religion. It's much easier to drop these minor points. No one got DFed for growing a beard, nor would there be anything more than a mild reprimand for greeting a DFed person at the KH.
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Prediction: no more changes for a long while
by slimboyfat ini’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
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354. -14. Now let's see how many he gains back.
Moving forward, he's going to have to gain 20-30 or so patrons a month to actually show some improvement.
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Will I be disfellowshippwd
by Sydney iny'all i am an unmedicated bipolar.
i had a mania streak and slept with my bf who is of the world.
i am pregnant from this.
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I think Sydney has been on here before
Yup. I think someone is having a bit of “fun” with this.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool April 2024
by DerekMoors inyou know the drill.
here's an updated chart and i'm using 356 because that's where he's at today.
please let me know if there's anything you think might be added.
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357 for me.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
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For those who may still be inclined to believe that Jabba the Hutt participated in a “victimless crime”, here’s some reading material for your flight:
https://phuket-go.com/phuket-news/phuket-news/patong-nightlife-takes-a-hit-after-underage-prostitution-scandal/
TL;DR:
One year ago, a bar on Bangla St (sound familiar??) in Pa Tong got raided by the Thai authorities who found “children” employed as sex workers. As a result, the Thai authorities instituted a law that “nighttime venues” must close by 1 AM.
The proprietor was a foreign national known as “Ronny” who subsequently fled to Laos. He also operated other illegal venues in Bangkok and central Thailand. In other words: A sex trafficker.
I relate this because Lloyd had made an adamant point in his FB rebuttal that had he really sought sex workers, he would have went to Bangkok instead.
He didn’t need to go to Bangkok; it was all right there. He knew that and lied right to everyone’s face. It was even on the same street (Bangla) where he had supposedly contemplated suicide from his hotel room.
As any good cop would tell you, what else is he lying about? Did “Ronny” hook Lloyd up before he fled to Laos a year later?
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It is no coincidence that prostitutes almost always refer to their encounters as "dates" and themselves as "girlfriends". They typically don't bump into someone in the street with a straight up business proposal for sex. It's all a charade designed to make the "john" feel like it's real, the sex is desired by the other party and also provides some cover for their activities should they be hassled by police.
The whole "dating" concept wasn't offered until he realized that people were dropping him like a hot shit for soliciting prostitutes.
I believe this to be a fair analysis. In the livestream he admitted to seeing prostitutes in general and in the Facebook post that followed. he admitted to visiting sex workers IN Thailand. This was a calculated attempt at normalcy, as if it were common for frustrated husbands to embark on sex holidays in Thailand. When he finally read the room it was too late. So everything we've heard from him since has been pure gaslighting on his part. As he said in his "Aftermath" video last September, "I dated a sex worker while I was there. End of story".
In his grease encrusted mind, he deduced that it really was "dating" and should the hooker ever be contacted, they would confirm this.
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All we know is he lives in the city of Zagreb now. We don't know his address.
I googled “Ipsilon Media Zagreb” and this address came right up.
Kuhaceva 8a 10000
Zagreb, Grad Zagreb, Croatia
Walking distance to downtown. Very conveniently located.
Don’t know if that is where he lives (could be the former “Ramacro”), but I thought I might repay the favour for our mutual friend in Hermosillo.
Asshole.
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What type of kangaroo court is this? They send the police to search for him at the ex-wife’s, evidently she’s providing alibis for him. Why did she tell them when he’ll be back instead of just saying he doesn’t live there anymore? Godamnit woman, think! You tell them you have knowledge of his plans, then guess what - they keep coming to you. You want your kids to see the police coming round asking for their dad again?
Now they’re searching for him. I think it is safe to say at this point that he never wants this to come to trial for obvious reasons. Instead he’s stringing this out as long as he can to support his “glacially slow” argument. I’m guessing Novosel told him this could take 6 years and he’s going with that.
All this strong talk about criminal defendants and how he can’t wait for the courts to bring him justice. He’s hiding and letting his wife answer for him. What a coward.
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The Memorial and my thoughts.
by Truth and Justice inno matter what opinions you may have, the memorial is very important to us.
many are opposed to the way the organization performs the memorial because of restrictive rules as to who should partake.
as jesus said in scripture, "keep doing this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.
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Do you think the org will change its stance as to only "anointed" ones partaking?
If they are serious about going mainstream, they will have to do this. I think though that there is a way to maintain the two classes doctrines whilst doing this. And of course they will expressly forbid worldly, inactive and spiritually weak people from partaking.
It’s really a no-brainer at this point. People who have been told it was forbidden for a long time will be excited to partake, will feel closer to God and thank the organisation for it.
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Didn't he also get pissed when he found out they were all sharing one copy of the book rather than paying for their own individual copies, or something like that? If I'm not mistaken, he not only didn't pay them but expected them to buy a book that they would translate for free.
He had several Spanish translators from various countries and backgrounds devoted to particular chapters. He sent them only the chapters they were assigned, not the whole book. The fellow from Hermosillo recognised this was an unprofessional arrangement, especially considering the various dialects involved and sought out the full PDF and worked on some more chapters with the intention of submitting them to Lloyd for publication. (Regarding dialects, a person from Hermosillo would speak the Norteño dialect - also known as “Tex-Mex”, which due to geographical considerations has a lot of English loanwords that would be uncommon, indeed incomprehensible for many other Spanish readers). Lloyd found out through one of the other translators and demanded to know where he had obtained the full PDF. He threatened to sue him if he did not divulge the source. When this person hedged, Lloyd pasted the IP details associated with this man and made the point that he knew who he was based on his location in Hermosillo.
Anyway, it was a long back and forth on a Spanish language forum that I wish I had screengrabbed but now is unavailable. In addition to threatening a lawsuit against both the translator and the source of the PDF, Lloyd in dramatic fashion sacked the man from Hermosillo and demanded all materials back, including the chapter, the unauthorised PDF and all work he had done. He also demanded financial recompense for the alleged violation of copyright.
All this right after he went so publicly after Deborah Dykstra for enforcing her copyright against him. So count me as unimpressed when he started his own lawsuit against the M7. Using threats of lawsuits is his standard operating procedure. He’s probably threatened his wife in their divorce case with making the case that she defamed him and contributed to financial loss by releasing all those pics and emails to other parties.